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	<title>Comments on: Egypt’s new foreign policy will &#8216;waste resources trying to destroy Israel&#8217; &#8211; Barry Rubin</title>
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		<title>By: Azad Ezzat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azad Ezzat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How convenient to ask an Israeli expert about political issues pertaining to the middle east? You think you will get a fair unbiased view? Genius journalism]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How convenient to ask an Israeli expert about political issues pertaining to the middle east? You think you will get a fair unbiased view? Genius journalism</p>
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		<title>By: دڵشاد خۆشناو</title>
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		<dc:creator>دڵشاد خۆشناو</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks to Koshan Ali Khidhir for this interview with Professor Rubin.
It&#039;s interesting how cool and with little emotional excitement Professor Rubin makes clear  what the essence of the &quot;Arab Spring&quot; is which is in my opinion rather the start of a long, cold and dark winter.

It&#039;s about the rise of large radical and less radical islamic groups.

The technically and west inspired youth started the &quot;uprising&quot; but the majority of those societies, which are the muslim groups, are getting their grip on power.

We have been there actually before. The iranian Khomeiny revolution of 1978 was very similiar.
A large part of the activists and those who were killed by the Shah regime were non-Islamists like the leftist and the kurdish parties.
All of those non-islamic groups were later eliminated, one by one. 

We can&#039;t expect anything different from the &quot;Arab Spring&quot; because actually the only thing that ALL groups of the &quot;Arab Spring&quot; agree on is:

1- their hostility to Israel (kind of destroy them or cut their hands at least)

2- their arab nationalism which is more of a chauvinism and actually &quot;fascism&quot; specially when it comes to Kurds.
The vast majority of those Arabs deny kurdish rights.
In current Syria, although the arab oppostion is badly persecuted and is under pressure from Bashar Assad, they still are refusing to accept the Kurds as a people with their own rights. 
At it&#039;s best they are only ready to accept that they are Kurds and may have some cultural rights.
From experience we know that even this little is not granted and later they will show their other face as soon as they have stabilized their power.

For these reasons and  others that can&#039;t be mentioned here in full length, there is little &quot;good&quot; that would come out of this for us Kurds and I am amazed that so many Kurds (including intellectuals) are so euphoric about the &quot;Arab Spring&quot; as a model and can&#039;t wait that it arrives Kurdistan as well.

Those who would be good for any kind of democracy are just a minority (15-30%) in those arab countries.
So I don&#039;t expect any democratic and peaceful developments with more prosperity and freedom for the peoples of those countries.
All what we can expect is more (islamic and arab nationalist) radicalization with &quot;un-peaceful&quot; consequences for Non-Arabs like Israel and Kurdistan.

Look a Iran: what a mess for freedom, human rights and prosperity!
Although  they are lucky to have vast oil fortunes that saved them from starvation.
What about Egypt that has no or little natural resources with an exploding population?

The last figures tell that the &quot;Arab Spring&quot; caused $75 Billion of damages and the economies are down right now because of:

1- tourists are staying out
2- investors pull out or restrain from bringing in money to those countries

I like the cool analysis of Professor Barry Rubin and that he is not overlooking the core facts and doesn&#039;t let himself be distracted by the usual rhetoric we nowadays hear and read.

I would have wished that Kurds, or at least their intellectuals, were able to think in this clear and precise way and not JUST repeat what others tell like &quot;parrots&quot;.

Slaw u rez]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks to Koshan Ali Khidhir for this interview with Professor Rubin.<br />
It&#8217;s interesting how cool and with little emotional excitement Professor Rubin makes clear  what the essence of the &#8220;Arab Spring&#8221; is which is in my opinion rather the start of a long, cold and dark winter.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about the rise of large radical and less radical islamic groups.</p>
<p>The technically and west inspired youth started the &#8220;uprising&#8221; but the majority of those societies, which are the muslim groups, are getting their grip on power.</p>
<p>We have been there actually before. The iranian Khomeiny revolution of 1978 was very similiar.<br />
A large part of the activists and those who were killed by the Shah regime were non-Islamists like the leftist and the kurdish parties.<br />
All of those non-islamic groups were later eliminated, one by one. </p>
<p>We can&#8217;t expect anything different from the &#8220;Arab Spring&#8221; because actually the only thing that ALL groups of the &#8220;Arab Spring&#8221; agree on is:</p>
<p>1- their hostility to Israel (kind of destroy them or cut their hands at least)</p>
<p>2- their arab nationalism which is more of a chauvinism and actually &#8220;fascism&#8221; specially when it comes to Kurds.<br />
The vast majority of those Arabs deny kurdish rights.<br />
In current Syria, although the arab oppostion is badly persecuted and is under pressure from Bashar Assad, they still are refusing to accept the Kurds as a people with their own rights.<br />
At it&#8217;s best they are only ready to accept that they are Kurds and may have some cultural rights.<br />
From experience we know that even this little is not granted and later they will show their other face as soon as they have stabilized their power.</p>
<p>For these reasons and  others that can&#8217;t be mentioned here in full length, there is little &#8220;good&#8221; that would come out of this for us Kurds and I am amazed that so many Kurds (including intellectuals) are so euphoric about the &#8220;Arab Spring&#8221; as a model and can&#8217;t wait that it arrives Kurdistan as well.</p>
<p>Those who would be good for any kind of democracy are just a minority (15-30%) in those arab countries.<br />
So I don&#8217;t expect any democratic and peaceful developments with more prosperity and freedom for the peoples of those countries.<br />
All what we can expect is more (islamic and arab nationalist) radicalization with &#8220;un-peaceful&#8221; consequences for Non-Arabs like Israel and Kurdistan.</p>
<p>Look a Iran: what a mess for freedom, human rights and prosperity!<br />
Although  they are lucky to have vast oil fortunes that saved them from starvation.<br />
What about Egypt that has no or little natural resources with an exploding population?</p>
<p>The last figures tell that the &#8220;Arab Spring&#8221; caused $75 Billion of damages and the economies are down right now because of:</p>
<p>1- tourists are staying out<br />
2- investors pull out or restrain from bringing in money to those countries</p>
<p>I like the cool analysis of Professor Barry Rubin and that he is not overlooking the core facts and doesn&#8217;t let himself be distracted by the usual rhetoric we nowadays hear and read.</p>
<p>I would have wished that Kurds, or at least their intellectuals, were able to think in this clear and precise way and not JUST repeat what others tell like &#8220;parrots&#8221;.</p>
<p>Slaw u rez</p>
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		<title>By: Haval</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haval</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 09:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Koshan ,you could ask him about IRAQ OR other part of these countried wich occupied kurdistan and then you could apply some question on kurds and kurdistan .Nevemind ,next time .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Koshan ,you could ask him about IRAQ OR other part of these countried wich occupied kurdistan and then you could apply some question on kurds and kurdistan .Nevemind ,next time .</p>
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